president obama and the campaign has won the summer. never behind in the polls, had a better convention, no question about it. and in the post convention, it's only gotten worse. now we're down to the debates in denver on wednesday night. the first one is on domestic policy. there are some republicans who are putting their credibility on the line, going out on the talking heads saying that mitt romney, after all of these months of missteps and not being sure of where he is on the issues, he's just going to turn it all around and, by the way, they can't explain the math on how they are going to turn it around. get your cell phones out. tonight's question. do you trust mitt romney's and paul ryan's math? text a for yes or b for no. you can go to our blog and leave a comment. we'll bring you the results later on in the show. joining me is howard fineman, nbc news political analyst. great to have you with us tonight. it's really been an all over the map strategy, almost like a dart board mentality. let's see where it lands today. can paul r